‘Insidious: The Red Door’ – Patrick Wilson on How Collaboration with Ghost on “Stay” Track Covertly Came Together [Interview]
It ends where it all began. Sony Pictures’s Insidious: The Red Door is out in theaters now. The horror franchise’s original cast is back in Insidious: The Red Door , directed by and starring Patrick Wilson . But Wilson covertly pulls triple duty in this sequel; the filmmaker collaborated with the band Ghost , singing on the end title track “ Stay .”
The track is a cover of Shakespears Sister’s 1992 hit, which you can check out below.
For the film’s release, Bloody Disgusting spoke with Wilson about his directorial debut, where Wilson recounted the entire story behind “Stay.” The director candidly broke down how he covertly pulled it together and the inspiration behind it.
“It happened behind most people’s backs. I’ll tell you that. Of course, if it’s a big hit, they’ll all take credit for it,” Wilson jokes. “No. I knew I wanted a song, a really cool song. I had this wild hair about Dokken singing ‘Dream Warriors’ in A Nightmare on Elm Street 3 . I knew that won’t work because people will ask, ‘What is this? This has nothing to do with the movie.’ Lyrically, it’s pretty sound, but I didn’t want it to seem like a joke, even though I love that tune. But I long for that kind of song at the end of a movie. I’m a big Ghost fan. Blumhouse had worked with Ghost on ‘Hunter’s Moon’ for Halloween Kills . Right?
“That was always in the back of my mind, but I didn’t know if I wanted to ask them again. I wanted to do something different. I knew it needed to be different. But I knew I would not have a lot of time or money, to be quite honest with you. I became friends with Tim Bickford, who’s at their label, and he and I just on our own would sit and throw around ideas and certain songs like, ‘Hey, you know Tobias [Forge] has got five new tracks, that he is going to start releasing these covers.’ And they were awesome. ‘We Don’t Need Another Hero.’ That’s cool, but I can’t say ‘Thunderdome’ in my ‘Insidious’ movie.”
Then I said, ‘Look, I don’t know if we can do this, but thank you for trying. These are the themes of the movie.’ I went through everything because they hadn’t seen the movie. I said, ‘This is stuff I want to deal with if I could find a song.’ Then, literally within two weeks, he was like, ‘This may be the track. It’s already done, so you don’t even have to pay for it to be done.’ Because I said, ‘And my dream is to sing on the track,’ because I think it would be one, probably not since John Carpenter and singing Big Trouble Little China . I don’t know if a director has sung on their own track on their own album or their own movie . So, he sent me the track, and the lyrics blew me away. Then he said, ‘Tobias would really be down for you doing the first two verses, and then he comes in like, basically, the devil’s presence.’ I thought, ‘This is incredible.’ It’s like Josh Lambert singing it in a weird way. Oh, this is going to be great.
“Then they just set it up, and literally, there was an email chain that was, ‘What is the end credit’s song?’ Then a bunch of people write back, ‘Oh, there’s nothing. We’ll find it.’ I replied, ‘No, no. I’m recording a song with Ghost,’ and I get this influx and people from Blumhouse. They’re like, ‘What?’ I was like, ‘I’m done asking for stuff. We’re just going to do it.’ So, we just went and did it. Luckily, Dan Malsch is the engineer on maybe a couple of their albums. He worked with Avenged Sevenfold, a bunch of bands that I love. He’s like an hour away from me. I went to the Poconos, talked to Tobias on the way, and was like, ‘This is what I’m thinking of doing. I’d like to wail at the end a little bit and do something different.’ He said, ‘Go for it.’ And they loved it. Here we are.”
Here we are, indeed. Listen to Wilson sing with Ghost below.
Horror journalist, RT Top Critic, and Critics Choice Association member. Co-Host of the Bloody Disgusting Podcast. Has appeared on PBS series' Monstrum, served on the SXSW Midnighter shorts jury, and moderated horror panels for WonderCon and SeriesFest.
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‘Suitable Flesh’ Director Joe Lynch on Casting His Lovecraft Movie and Building a Stuart GordonVerse [Interview]
Director Joe Lynch’s ( Wrong Turn 2, Mayhem, “Creepshow”) new movie Suitable Flesh, based on H.P. Lovecraft’s The Thing On The Doorstep , is poised to unleash body-swapping horror this Halloween weekend.
Suitable Flesh is bringing Lovecraftian madness to theaters and VOD on October 27, 2023 , and the film will later be hitting Shudder for exclusive streaming in January 2024.
In Suitable Flesh , “After murdering her young patient, a once-esteemed psychiatrist helplessly watches her life spiral into a nightmarish maelstrom of supernatural hysteria and gruesome deaths, all linked to a seemingly unstoppable ancient curse.”
The film stars Barbara Crampton , Heather Graham, Judah Lewis, Bruce Davison, Johnathon Schaech , and Jonah Ray.
Dennis Paoli , the writer of Re-Animator and From Beyond , wrote the script .
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“ When we started going around with this, we kept hearing dangerous, like, ‘This is too dangerous. This is a little too provocative. This is a little too taboo.’ I’m sitting there going, ‘Stuart, this is exactly what you wanted.’ We really did feel like we were onto something when we started taking it around because we needed to find someone who not only could be able to play not just Elizabeth Derby but all those different characters in all the body swap situations. Someone who felt like they could go along for the ride and feel comfortable with the provocations, with the dangerous feel we were going for. We were going out to all these different people, and it was, I believe, Heather who came to us and said, ‘I’m really interested in this.'”
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Ghost and Patrick Wilson cover Shakespears Sister’s ‘Stay’ for ‘Insidious’ soundtrack
Ghost have previously contributed to the 'Halloween Kills' soundtrack as well
Swedish rock and metal band Ghost and actor Patrick Wilson have teamed up to cover Shakespears Sister ‘s ‘Stay’ as part of the Insidious: The Red Door soundtrack.
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The track, a cover of Shakespears Sister’s 1992 goth-pop hit ‘Stay’, features in the closing credits of the newly released horror film. It also marks Ghost’s first release since their recent covers EP ‘Phantomime’ in May.
Listen to Ghost and Patrick Wilson perform ‘Stay’ below.
Wilson – who also directed Insidious: The Red Door – revealed via a press statement that he got word that Ghost were planning to release a cover of the track, and reached out to Tobias Forge for a collaboration.
“Ghost, for me, is one of the most unique rock bands out there. Tobias’ sense of melody is only matched by his storytelling. The blistering imagery of him and the band is unlike any other. The balance of dark lyrics with soaring — and dare I say… angelic — melodies, make listening to them a different experience than any other band out there.”
“So clearly, when I wanted a band that embodied the spirit of Insidious lore, I knew where to look first. ‘Stay’ is such a hauntingly beautiful tune to end my film with, because the dark lyrics juxtaposed against the sweeping melody are a great bookend to my film. Singing on it, alongside Tobias, was an absolute thrill. I wanted the tune to feel like it was Josh Lambert (my character) singing, and then being tempted by the devil (the lipstick demon) in this case, sung by the brilliant Tobias Forge.
“Tobias’ tone is a sharp contrast to mine, and his new arrangement of the song is faithful yet fresh. It was an honour to be featured on the tune, and I can’t thank Tobias and the Ghost crew, especially Tim Bickford and Kristen Mulderig, for making this happen.”
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Ghost are no stranger to horror film soundtracks, having previously contributed their original track ‘Hunter’s Moon’ as part of the 2021 slasher flick Halloween Kills .
Insidious: The Red Door – which is in cinemas now – marks the fifth entry in the horror franchise. The film scored a four-star review from NME ‘s Alex Flood, who wrote: “In between the terror, the newbie director makes time for actual plot… Wilson should be applauded for trying to mix things up. There’s a focus on family, too. If Vin Diesel ever ditches the Fast & Furious franchise to burn seance candles instead of rubber, it’ll probably look something like this. Wilson makes the step up look simple.”
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Listen to Ghost's new single featuring Patrick Wilson - a cover of Shakespears Sister’s Stay, as featured in the new Insidious movie
Ghost share their cover of Shakespears Sister’s Stay, recorded for the soundtrack of new horror film Insidious: The Red Door, featuring guest vocals from actor Patrick Wilson
Ghost have released a new single, Stay , featuring guest vocals from actor Patrick Wilson.
The track is a cover of Shakespears Sister’s 1992 hit, and appears in the final scene and credits of the new horror movie, Insidious: The Red Door.
Of how the cover came about, Wilson, a devout Ghost fan who stars in the franchise met up with frontman Tobias Forge to discuss the film, which also serves as his directional debut.
Inspired by Forge's collaborative single with Def Leppard's Joe Elliott on the alternative version of Spillways from Ghost’s 2022 album Impera , Wilson reached out to Forge to see if there was a way they could do a project of their own.
At the time, Forge revealed he had been working on a cover of the Shakespears Sister classic, and invited Wilson, who is a classically trained Broadway singer, to duet on the track.
Speaking of the single, Wilson explains, "It was Joe Bishara, our Insidious composer and resident Lipstick Demon who first got me into Ghost about 10 years ago. Joe knew I liked metal...but he also knew I liked melody. What can I say? I’m a child of the ‘80s... when soaring voices and blazing guitars were played at every dance, every fast food parking lot, and every day in my house. Ghost had the right blend of metal, melody, and an unforgettable image. This coming from a guy who collected Kiss cards in the '70s...so I know good rock branding and imagery when I see it!"
Of his love for the Swedish occult rockers, he adds: "Ghost, for me, is one of the most unique rock bands out there. Tobias’ sense of melody is only matched by his storytelling. The blistering imagery of him and the band is unlike any other. The balance of dark lyrics with soaring (and dare I say… angelic) melodies, make listening to them a different experience than any other band out there. At least that’s what it does for me.
"So clearly, when I wanted a band that embodied the spirit of Insidious lore, I knew where to look first. Stay is such a hauntingly beautiful tune to end my film with, because the dark lyrics juxtaposed against the sweeping melody (written by Dave Stewart) are a great bookend to my film."
Elaborating on what it was like to duet with the Ghost frontman, the actor/director concludes: "Singing on it, alongside Tobias, was an absolute thrill. I wanted the tune to feel like it was Josh Lambert (my character) singing...and then being tempted by the devil (the lipstick demon)...in this case, sung by the brilliant Tobias Forge. Tobias’ tone is a sharp contrast to mine, and his new arrangement of the song is faithful yet fresh. It was an honour to be featured on the tune, and I can’t thank Tobias and the Ghost crew, especially Tim Bickford and Kristen Mulderig, for making this happen.
"Ghost is the perfect blend of theatricality met with musical mastery. Tobias is at the top of his game and I’m thrilled to have him on the soundtrack, and honoured to sing alongside him."
Insidious: The Red Door, the fifth film of the Insidious franchise, is out in cinemas across the UK and US today (July 7).
Listen to the track below:
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Ghost Cover Shakespears Sister's 'Stay' With Actor Patrick Wilson
Patrick Wilson wanted to involve Ghost in his directorial debut of Insidious: The Red Door and met up with Tobias Forge after seeing the band twice last year.
Ghost & Patrick Wilson (Credit: Ester Segarra (Ghost), Patrick Wilson: Supplied)
Ghost have released an unexpected collaboration with Tony-nominated singer and actor Patrick Wilson ( Insidious , Aquaman , The Conjuring ) for the end credits to the latest Insidious film, The Red Door , now playing in cinemas.
Wilson, a self-proclaimed Ghost fan, worked with the band on a cover of Shakespears Sister ’s Stay from the UK pop duo’s 1992 album, Hormonally Yours . A #1 single in the UK and Tobias Forge ’s native Sweden and #3 in Australia, the song was massive. Ghost don’t get too heavy with it; instead, they allow Wilson to take the lead for the first few verses.
However, when Tobias Forge comes in, Stay feels like a Ghost song and becomes a theatrical rock number. Wilson wanted to involve Ghost in his directorial debut of Insidious: The Red Door and met up with Forge after seeing the band twice last year.
Also inspired by the Joe Elliott ( Def Leppard ) duet of Spillways from Ghost’s #1 album, Impera , Wilson got back in touch with Forge, who was already working on a cover of Stay , and promptly put together the stunning duet you can hear below.
Explaining the dream come true collaboration with Ghost, Wilson said in a lengthy statement:
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“It was Joe Bishara, our Insidious composer and resident Lipstick Demon who first got me into Ghost about 10 years ago. Joe knew I liked metal… but he also knew I liked melody. What can I say? I’m a child of the ‘80s… when soaring voices and blazing guitars were played at every dance, every fast food parking lot, and every day in my house. Ghost had the right blend of metal, melody, and an unforgettable image. This coming from a guy who collected KISS cards in the '70s… so I know good rock branding and imagery when I see it!
“Ghost, for me, is one of the most unique rock bands out there. Tobias’ sense of melody is only matched by his storytelling. The blistering imagery of him and the band is unlike any other. The balance of dark lyrics with soaring (and, dare I say… angelic) melodies, make listening to them a different experience than any other band out there. At least that’s what it does for me.
“So clearly, when I wanted a band that embodied the spirit of Insidious lore, I knew where to look first. Stay is such a hauntingly beautiful tune to end my film with, because the dark lyrics juxtaposed against the sweeping melody (written by Dave Stewart) are a great bookend to my film. Singing on it alongside Tobias was an absolute thrill. I wanted the tune to feel like it was Josh Lambert (my character) singing… and then being tempted by the devil (the lipstick demon)… in this case, sung by the brilliant Tobias Forge. Tobias’ tone is a sharp contrast to mine, and his new arrangement of the song is faithful yet fresh. It was an honor [sic] to be featured on the tune, and I can’t thank Tobias and the Ghost crew, especially Tim Bickford and Kristen Mulderig, for making this happen.
“Ghost is the perfect blend of theatricality met with musical mastery. Tobias is at the top of his game, and I’m thrilled to have him on the soundtrack, and honored [sic] to sing alongside him.”
Last week, Ghost upgraded all the venues for their upcoming Australian tour to massive arenas. In addition to the venue upgrade news, the band revealed that they are bringing their total international production to Australia, promising an utterly authentic Ghost experience for their devoted fans.
You can buy tickets via Destroy All Lines .
AUSTRALIAN TOUR 2023
TUESDAY, 3 OCTOBER - QUDOS BANK ARENA, SYDNEY – VENUE UPGRADE
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SATURDAY, 7 OCTOBER - BRISBANE ENTERTAINMENT CENTRE, BRISBANE – VENUE UPGRADE
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