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1984 Ta Shing Baba 40

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Seller's Description

A rare chance to purchase a legendary blue water cruiser. The baba 40 is a fast agile ocean goer from renowned designer Bob Perry built in the Ta shing boat works

This boat was rebuilt at professional boat yards in Lunenburg Nova Scotia intermittently throughout 2013 to 2019 by legends like Tern Boat works, top marine electrician Dave Evans and relaunched in 2020

The end cost of the rebuild was approximately $450 to$500 CDN

This ship is ocean-ready, looking for a new adventure captain :)

Equipment: Vessel was professionally rewired by DCE Marine (Dave Evans). 810w solar LG neon 2 with EPever controller new 2021 2 lifeline military spec glass mat GPL-8DL AGM Batteries,

Dual Victron charges on parallel as back up for the 110v shore power or generator. Plumbed and wired for water maker 125 USG stainless steel fuel tank 160 USG fresh water

220 amp new alternator 2019 All tanks are refurbished and replumbed, everything is replumbed. Every pump has been replaced. Every system has a backup redundant system - from the racor fuel filters, of which there are 2 that can be instantly switched over in case of low flow, to duel raw water strainers on all intakes, to the three bilge pumps, and three maceration pumps on the head that can be rerouted at the flick of a switch.so much more to add, I can send a 2021 survey. Galley equipmet:

Force 10 3-burner gimballed propane cooker with an oven Marble counter tops Stainless sink with addition 15 gallons drinking water on separate system. Top and front loading refrigerator with Frigoboat compressor and cooling plate mounted on the keel Built in microwave

Deck and hull:

All through hulls were replaced with several glassed over and moved so all intakes are on the starboard side and all outlets on port. All through hulls are commercial grade and all hoses are new top grade suited for the system. All standing rigging and shrouds redone, as well as blocks replaced, and the mast repainted with new primary track system and secondary track for mainsail. The rigging is again commercial grade normally used for bridges, it is diamond shaped rods of stainless steel wound into a cable that’s 3x more expensive than top end stainless shrouds. Lewmar 54 self-tailing electric winch on coaming to port - Lewmar 48 self-tailing on coaming to starboard. Two (2) Lewmar 30 self-tailing on mast to port. Lewmar 40 self-tailing on mast to starboard. Lewmar 40 self-tailing on superstructure to port. Lewmar 30 self-tailing on superstructure to starboardFive (5) Spinlock XT on superstructure to port.Four (4) Spinlock XT on superstructure to starboard.

navigation equipment

Axiom 9 Raymarine plotter, Raymarine doppler radar Hydraulic autohelm (tier 3), Active AIS, Furuno wind and depth sounder FI-50wifi module that can duplicate all the Axiom functions on to any phone tablet or computer, all new May 2021 Prosine 1800w inverter One (1) Victron Energy Skylla-IP44 60 amp chargers with charge controller additional Diesel generator EW 4200 D. 142 Hours water pump needs repaired or replaced.

SOUND DEVICES:

Horn mounted. NAVIGATION LIGHTS:

To Transport Canada specifications - spreader lights and starboard running light. VENTILATION: Natural. SMOKE DETECTOR: Kidde smoke detector. CO DETECTOR: Xintex CO detector. BILGE WATER ALARM AND SAFETY SWITCHES: Rule high water alarm. PROPANE FUME SNIFFER ALARM SYSTEMS: Electro Systems automatic propane fume sniffer in cabin. BOARDING LADDER: Mounted on swim platform with spare ladder on the cabin top. MAN OVERBOARD SYSTEM: One (1) Dan buoy and LifeSling.6 man offshore liferaft new in 2021 AIR CONDITIONING TYPE: Electric - not tested at the time of the survey as systems need raw water for cooling. En sure functioning. MANUFACTURER: Coastal

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

The Baba 40, also known as the Panda 40 and later the Tashiba 40, is the third of the Baba lineup of boats involving developer Bob Berg, designer Bob Perry, and the Ta Shing boatyard. One can arguably consider the Baba 40 a full keel reincarnation of the Valiant 40 , the boat that put the word “performance” next to “cruiser”. Knowing that I guess it’s not so surprising to find the Baba 40 inherits a good turn of speed – owners even trumpet around-the-buoys racing victories in these serious blue water cruisers. They are beautifully balanced with a wonderful feel at the helm, and what’s more, they have some of the best interiors to be seen in production cruising yachts.

The story of the Baba 40 really starts with the Baba 30 which brought together a winning combination of talents – developer Bob Berg, designer Bob Perry , and what was then a little known Taiwanese boatyard called Shing Sheng. Through the success of the little Baba 30 and the Baba 35 , Shing Sheng started on the road to become a force in the boatbuilding world. By 1979 they had changed their name to Ta Shing and had moved to a new purpose built factory. It was in this year that Berg commissioned Perry to design a new 40-foot model to fill out the line.

Perry was not happy with merely evolving his earlier Baba 35 design, which in itself was a stretched version of the 30. Instead, in search of more boat speed, Perry dusted off the lines of his famous Valiant 40 with its radical fin keel and separate skeg-hung rudder had defined the “performance cruiser” category only five years earlier. From the Valiant 40 hull form he derived an all-new full keel design which was to be the Baba 40. It proved to be a huge step forward over earlier Babas with Perry describing the Baba 40 having an entirely different stability personality. It was stiffer initially, beautifully balanced and much faster.

Tim Ellis who oversaw construction fondly remembers the symbiotic partnering of Berg’s development and management, Perry’s design, and Ta Shing’s undisputed capabilities as builder. He recalls the exacting attention fostered by Berg.

“They produced a design of sublime artistry. I think it is no exaggeration to suggest that Bob Berg made at least thirty or more visits to Taiwan during the years Baba designs were under development and construction, and he and I would sit on each yacht for hours, days and more to fine tune shapes, appearances, major and minor details, and resolve the niggling issues that plagued others less well traveled. My job was to take Bob’s advice and adjustments and translate them into action. My list of items might run into the hundreds during each visit, and many, many more on a hull number one. In pursuit of his ideal, Bob left no room for equivocation, and a lesser builder would have baulked.” – Tim Ellis

The Baba 40 was introduced to the public in 1980. In 1983, when Berg left his association with the Flying Dutchman dealership who owned the Baba trademark, he marketed the boat as the Panda 40. This name did not last long and by 1984, with Ta Shing now a contender in Taiwanese boat-building, marketed the boat by themselves using the name Tashiba 40. It’s been speculated this was a play on the words names “Ta Shing” and “Baba”.

Production ended in 1996 with a total of 115 boats being built, although hull numbers can be found that run up to #182, there is a gap between #33 and #101.

Ta Shing eventually formed an exclusive relationship with the Californian based company PAEI who had Al Mason as their in-house designer. Sadly, years later when PAEI shifted focus to power boats, many of Ta Shing’s molds including the Baba 40 were cut up.

Configuration

The lines of the Baba 40 follows its ancestry back to traditional Scandinavian double-enders. Under the waterline is a full keel with a cutaway forefoot and as with many of the Perry full keel designs, the keel meets the bilge of the hull without the traditional “wine glass” section blend. Both features reduce wetted area. The hull shape is relatively beamy offering good interior volume. A cutter rig plus bowsprit combo is employed on most boats though it is believed two boats were optionally built as ketches. Another major variation was a pilothouse model with its two comfortable staterooms; about eleven pilothouses were built.

Belowdecks the quality of workmanship is superb, many Taiwanese man-hours were used in detailing the interiors with the close guidance of Berg who was known for his ability to squeeze function into every square inch of a boat. Perry also considered it one of his best, noting that it feels “right” with near perfect detailing and a layout with no apparent compromise.

On the starboard quarter, there’s a cabin with a double seagoing quarter-berth. To port there’s a well laid out U-shaped galley. In the saloon, a two-settee berth layout with pilot berth to port was offered as an option to provide extra sea-going berths. In the forward cabin, there’s a double berth offset to port. Headroom is a generous 6′ 5″.

The Tashiba 40 boats had less detailing which has been attributed cost cutting measures by Ta Shing – less teak trim, less portlights, and gone are the butterfly hatches in the Baba 40.

Construction

The Baba 40 hull is solidly built in hand-laid GRP, with hull thickness growing from 0.41″ thick at the topsides to 0.57″ at the waterline, and 0.90″ at the keel. The deck is cored with end-grained balsa, as well as high density closed-cell foam in the deck and cabin trunk. The ballast is cast iron and is encapsulated in GRP, though one boat at least was built with lead ballast.

The boat has a wonderful feel at the helm and is a fun to sail, especially as the breeze picks up. Some owners have even raced their Baba 40s against modern fin keel competitors successfully. As a testament to the boat’s speed, Michael and Elizabeth Kramer in S.V. Cambria covered 396 miles in a 46 hour passage down the Sea of Cortez broad reaching in 35 knots of wind; an impressive average of 8.6 knots.

Owners often describe their Baba’s to have a feel of solidity. In heavy weather conditions the Baba 40 has the capacity to keep sailing when many other boats are heaving-to. Of note is Jeff Hartjoy’s solo passage from Peru to Buenos Aires via Cape Horn in 2009 where he experienced an immense amount of bad weather. On that passage he reported a lot of breakages but commented about the soundness of his boat.

Buyers Notes

As with many boats older than 25 years, have your surveyor check items such as chainplates and areas of balsa coring for rot. The original mild steel fuel tanks have proven to be susceptible to corrosion and on most boats, these have been replaced.

Overall, the Baba 40 has aged well, a testament to its build quality. Most examples on the market tend to be in excellent condition and priced accordingly. As of 2010 asking prices are in the range of $160k-$200k USD.

Links, References and Further Reading

» Yacht Design According to Perry: My Boats and What Shaped Them , by Robert H. Perry (p89-p95) » Baba, Panda, Tashiba sailboat Yahoo Group,  information and owner discussions

For their assistance in the writing of this article, thanks goes out to Tim Ellis who supervised the Baba line of yachts built at Shing Sheng / Ta Sheng during 1977-1987 as well as owners from the Baba Association.

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