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Hobie Cat Holder 12

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This Hobie Holder 12 is a great little sailboat with a single sail. This boat comes with a yellow with rainbow striped sail which is in good condition. The fiverglass rudder and daggerboard are in good condition as well. This boat is light and easy to carry with 2 people. 

Stock #: 7659

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Designed in 1981 by Ron Holder and built by Hobie Cat, there are over 5000 Holder 12’s sailing and over two dozen active racing fleets in the United States.

With its free standing cat-boat rig and retractable dagger board, the Holder 12 features a long waterline yet weighs only 115 pounds. This makes it a fast and responsive addition to the Yacht Club racing fleet.

The best way to describe the Holder 12 is that it is light, fast and fun, just like the Junior Yacht Club. The Lake Arrowhead Yacht Club Holder Fleet was started in 1986. Sailors of all ages race in this boat.

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Specifications
12 ft.
5 ft.
2.5 ft.
115 pounds
81 sq. ft.
1 to 2

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05-08-2019, 20:08  
Boat: 1984 Hobie Holder 12'
today. Feels dumb typing that since I only spent $150, but I’m excited to get out and play with it. I found a Hobie Holder 12 and was able to get it for $150.

The gentleman who it was 83 and did his best to show me how to rig it, but I’m pretty sure he didn’t do it right. Either way, I won’t remember everything he showed me. I can’t find any videos or instructions online. I found the original manual on the Hobie site, but it has pictures without much instruction.

Do any of you have a Hobie Holder or experience with one? I’d love any I can get on setting it up properly. Pictures coming in a minute. Didn’t realize I have to post them somewhere else first.    

   

 
05-08-2019, 20:15  
Boat: 1984 Hobie Holder 12'
have some dings. I’m hoping that’s not a big issue. I’m just wanting to use this as a learner and something my can learn/play on. Not worried about aesthetics, as long as it functions. Do I need to worry about any of these dings? If so, what’s the best way to fix them?    

   

06-08-2019, 19:56  
Boat: Sabre 402
, which looks like it might be opening up, might need more than that. Essentially you need to grind down the damaged section to good, solid material, and then use with some cloth and mat to build it back so that it doesn’t open up the way it seems to be starting to. Let everything dry out thoroughly before getting the resin out.
 
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12' Hobie Holder 12

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Seller's Description

Complete in very good condition (see all photos). Easy to setup and sail. Great for learners and seasoned sailors. Fast and reliable. Stored in the US Sailing Center in Miami. Ready to go.

Equipment: Mast, boom, center board and rudder Pull-up zippered sail with battens Original storage bag for accessories Weather protective cover Launching dolly Stand-up storage/maneuver dolly (great space saver) No road trailer

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

  • SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
  • D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
  • LOA: Length overall in feet
  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

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