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Victoria Eighteen Sailboat

Discussion in ' Sailboats ' started by Harold Anderson , Aug 26, 2011 .

Harold Anderson Junior Member

Looking for owners of Victoria Eighteen Sailboats. Want to discuss modifications. Please email me at [email protected] Thanks Harold  

Doug Lord Flight Ready

Victoria 18 Harold, I'm not an owner but I am curious about what mods you had in mind?  

PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

I'm very familiar with the Victory 18, having repaired and restored a few. So, you need rudder repairs too . . .  

I am looking to reduce weather helm. It's bad! Boat wants to round up all the time and I am constantly using pressure to control the rudder with the tiller. Have tried changing mast rake with very little improvement if any. Moved gear all over the boat also with no effect. Thought of mabey a bow sprit. I guess they built a couple of cutter rigged victoria eighteens supposedly to cope with the weatherhelm. What about a ketch rig? A small mizzen mabey? Also the sleeping arrangements are horrible. I think they were designed for midget midgets! No harm intended. The accomodations are port and starboard on the sides. Please reply if you have ideas about the weatherhelm. I am a novice and don't know where to go from here. I don't want to be fighting the tiller the entire trip though thats for sure. Thanks Harold  

CutOnce Previous Member

Harold Anderson said: ↑ I am looking to reduce weather helm. It's bad! Boat wants to round up all the time and I am constantly using pressure to control the rudder with the tiller. Have tried changing mast rake with very little improvement if any. Moved gear all over the boat also with no effect. Thought of mabey a bow sprit. I guess they built a couple of cutter rigged victoria eighteens supposedly to cope with the weatherhelm. What about a ketch rig? A small mizzen mabey? Also the sleeping arrangements are horrible. I think they were designed for midget midgets! No harm intended. The accomodations are port and starboard on the sides. Please reply if you have ideas about the weatherhelm. I am a novice and don't know where to go from here. I don't want to be fighting the tiller the entire trip though thats for sure. Thanks Harold Click to expand...

Harold, you inexperience as a sailor is very likely the cause of the weather helm sensation you are feeling. This isn't a personal dig at you, but an observation from many that have sailed one with limited experience. The Vic 18 wants to sail on her hear, not flat, which is one of the big problems most have with her, they tend to over sheet the old gal, trying in vain to right her, which just makes her ***** and moan, offering a lot of helm pressure to remind you to ease the sheets. Her preferred angle of heel is 12 degrees or more, depending on wind strength. The rudder on this boat was a source of difficulty and not as well shaped as it could be. Most make modifications. The factory made a shorter version called the Victoria 17, but with a transom hung rudder, which solved the issue. The cutter rig was an option, but very few were actually built (3 or 4) and it wasn't to address a weather helm issue, but to satisfy a perceived client demand. The sloop is the better sailor by far. The rudder was redesigned a few times and reports of the later models are that they work better (what year is yours?). There was once a web site for them and a discussion forum, but I don't know if it's still active. They made 300 or 400 of these boats and there are many in my area, most can be had for next to nothing. As a keel boat goes they get killed by more modern canoe bodies and being the shoal draft version of a Minuet 18, it lacked ability to windward too. The rudder needs more area, which is usually tacked on aft. Since this is a part that often needs to be rebuilt, I've modified everyone I've worked on with good results. I added about 20% more area to the trailing edge and reshaped it for better flow.  

Paul, here is the website: http://www.victoriayachts.com/vicsite/index.html  

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PAR said: ↑ Harold, you inexperience as a sailor is very likely the cause of the weather helm sensation you are feeling. This isn't a personal dig at you, but an observation from many that have sailed one with limited experience. The Vic 18 wants to sail on her hear, not flat, which is one of the big problems most have with her, they tend to over sheet the old gal, trying in vain to right her, which just makes her ***** and moan, offering a lot of helm pressure to remind you to ease the sheets. Her preferred angle of heel is 12 degrees or more, depending on wind strength. The rudder on this boat was a source of difficulty and not as well shaped as it could be. Most make modifications. The factory made a shorter version called the Victoria 17, but with a transom hung rudder, which solved the issue. The cutter rig was an option, but very few were actually built (3 or 4) and it wasn't to address a weather helm issue, but to satisfy a perceived client demand. The sloop is the better sailor by far. The rudder was redesigned a few times and reports of the later models are that they work better (what year is yours?). There was once a web site for them and a discussion forum, but I don't know if it's still active. They made 300 or 400 of these boats and there are many in my area, most can be had for next to nothing. As a keel boat goes they get killed by more modern canoe bodies and being the shoal draft version of a Minuet 18, it lacked ability to windward too. The rudder needs more area, which is usually tacked on aft. Since this is a part that often needs to be rebuilt, I've modified everyone I've worked on with good results. I added about 20% more area to the trailing edge and reshaped it for better flow. Click to expand...

Harold Anderson said: ↑ Looking for owners of Victoria Eighteen Sailboats. Want to discuss modifications. Please email me at [email protected] Thanks Harold Click to expand...

Hi: I have acquired a Victoria 18 and it is missing a pin that holds the bottom of the rudder to the hull. Any info on what that pin looks like and where to get one? Mike, Thanks Harold Anderson said: ↑ I am looking to reduce weather helm. It's bad! Boat wants to round up all the time and I am constantly using pressure to control the rudder with the tiller. Have tried changing mast rake with very little improvement if any. Moved gear all over the boat also with no effect. Thought of mabey a bow sprit. I guess they built a couple of cutter rigged victoria eighteens supposedly to cope with the weatherhelm. What about a ketch rig? A small mizzen mabey? Also the sleeping arrangements are horrible. I think they were designed for midget midgets! No harm intended. The accomodations are port and starboard on the sides. Please reply if you have ideas about the weatherhelm. I am a novice and don't know where to go from here. I don't want to be fighting the tiller the entire trip though thats for sure. Thanks Harold Click to expand...

Sorry to tell you that Paul Riccelli passed away. RIP Mr. Paul [PAR] Riccelli https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/rip-mr-paul-par-riccelli.60437/ You may find some contact information here: VICTORIA 18 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=28  

Hank Abt New Member

Sorry to hear about Mr. Riccelli. Great loss. His designs were interesting. Can the riverboat series plans still be purchased?  

Vic18Larry New Member

I also am seeking rudder repair info and pictures/videos as I just acquired a Victoria 18 in need of saving. Larry Toole  

Donald P New Member

Good morning Larry and all... I was researching the Skimmer this morning and found a few posts her that i thought I would offer some possible input on. It sounds like Paul was an avid sailor and designer with lots of wonderful years spent about salty projects, well, good for him! It's a dream for most of us I'm sure to aspire to reach his level of knowledge and experience level with people and all things nautical! "Here here" to Paul and his love of boats! The Vic 18... I bought this boat somewhere in '97 or maybe 2000... I don't remember exactly. These things sort of get lost once you have been involved so long that you cant remember what it was like to be without something water based like this in your life. But I digress. So the two major issues confronting owners of the Vic 18 are and have been generally thru-hulls and Rudders. That's a pretty good record considering all the stresses these boats take on over their sailing lives, not to mention those that get abandoned, fill with water, or come off their trailers from unexpected situations. All of that in mind, the Victoria has been a solid and extremely safe boat to its owners. I have seen nothing in my 20+ years of sailing, talking, meeting, sharing and communication about the Victoria that points to anyone loosing a Vic due to capsizing, hard sailing, weather extremes or anything other than storms or other natural disasters. Neither have i heard of anyone being hurt or seriously injured due to any issue with these boats. Simply put, they are safe, semi-efficient, solid basic performing sailboats that will give you the thrill of 12 to 28 degrees of heel in the right conditions within an excellent safety envelope. Even for beginners... she is forgiving - mostly due to her weather helm, always rounding up quickly, unless coaxed not to. As far as the Rudder Pin.. I will get the specs, but I believe its simply a basic brass 5/16th or so SAE 3.5" bolt, screwed into the base of the receiver through the rudder, with a removable Loctite (Blue - NOT red). Its been a while... but for some reason I believe we cut the hex heads off of this bolt afterwards, as the assembly was actually held in place and secured at the top of the rudder shaft. Right now I don't know the exact reason for cutting the head off. I think maybe leaving the head on would allow the pin to worry lose as the rudder surface near the bolt head turned on the non rotating bolt head with enough friction over time to allow the bolt to worry free. This is probably not much to worry about for a a dry docked Vic, but is something to be concerned about when a Vic is at a mooring or docked for extended periods. It goes without saying that whenever I sail the Vic and hit 15 to 25 or more degree heel, I get gasps from those in other boats in close proximity, and even from folks on shore "uh oh !! Whoa !! look at that! Shes going over!" only to be followed by "wow" as she continues pushing through the water without stopping, reaching for the next tack. The summer before last I got hit with a very strong gust with myself and another person on the Vic. I was being followed by someone on another boat who witnessed exactly what happened and relayed that to me afterwards. I am not one to push the Vic in a steep heel during a stiff breeze, that basically does the same thing as putting your foot on the accelerator and the brake at the same time while driving. Lots of energy directed into not much movement but lots of stress on the equipment. So the boat heeled, and then kept going as I pulled on the rudder to maintain course through the gust, while attempting to let out the main sheet at the same time. My timing was off and the main sheet slipped out of my hand as the boat continued to roll and I reached out for balance on the starboard side standing rigging. The Vic's bottom paint clearly visible now out of the water to such a degree that the boat almost hit what felt like 40 but was probably more like 30 or 32 degrees or more. I remember standing on the port coaming as if it were the cockpit floor. I could see the bottom of the boom in front of me swinging down toward the water, and it was reported that almost the entire rudder was out of the water (from what the boat following us could see). I did not however feel the rudder go slack, so I think that report was more of an "oh my god shes going over" though in reality it wasn't there. In any case water spilled over the coaming and into the cockpit for a split second as the displacement wave turned back on itself and entered the boat after its initial push away. The lead shoal keel took over at this point of course, without any of my help. I was still hoping my grip on the starboard rigging (now directly behind my back), would hold me. I had no clue where my passenger was, although there was movement and clawing noises coming from beside me..!!!! The boat slowly creaked back into the norm, first to 28, 25, 20, then rocked back into a standard 12 to 15 degree heel. I would bet that is the furthest any Vic has ever gone over. And although i'm not a master at sailing, this single experience has given me the ability to both feel safe, push this little boat further than the average person might attempt simply because they do not know its maximum ability to not roll, and maintain a safety margin to not get back there again in an emergency. That rudder was working hard no doubt. I haven't calculated the stress placed on that few square feet (if that) in that kind of a situation, but it has to be up there for a design load. So in that, I am wondering if adding even more surface area to the rudder might create a moment (twisting action) about the rudder shaft, that would overcome the basic design of the rudder to cause damage to the wings (internal stainless bar stock supports (I think 2), welded to the shaft aft to support the stresses of the rudder under load). It all has to do with the sizing, location, and number of those wings and whether they are webbed together or free standing. I believe they are independent stainless bar stock welded to the shaft(with holes drill possibly for adherence of the fiberglass) and not connected together. Now... if those supports were not welded to the shafts center, but wrapped around the shaft and then welded forming an almost wing like surface for each of the supports. That would have given the design a much much stronger ability to counter the loads, for adding a larger surface area, and it could have supported the use of lighter stainless material because you would pick up strength due to the width of the supports being placed outwards around the diameter of the shaft and not simply welding to the center line of it. Man I hope this is not overkill!!! "Brevity is the soul of wit" William Shakespeare - Hamlet  

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David Oro New Member

Hello Donald: I have read your comments above several times and I really appreciate all the insights. I have identified a Vic 18 and I have been considering buying it for a while but if possible I would really appreciate being able to speak with you on the phone or on this platform to ask more about the sailing performance. I am an experienced sailor and in fact I owned a Vic 17 several years back. I really enjoyed sailing her but indeed she always heels much more than most boats-- and I easily got used to it. I am no performance freak... I just want a boat for day sailing that I can take out under most normal wind conditions: 10 - 15 knots with ocasional gusts to 20 knots. Your comments would indicate that the Vic 18 is safe and as you said "semi efficient" which I took to mean that we would like to be able to point up to the wind more .... but it is reasonable. Is this correct? BTW the boat I am considering is a 1981 so she should have the rudder improvements that you mentioned for later year models. If possible, please call me at 786-253-4949 and/or zap me an email at [email protected] . I thank you very much in advance. Best regards, David  

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VICTORIA 18 Detailed Review

If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of VICTORIA 18. Built by Victoria Yachts Co. and designed by G. William McVay, the boat was first built in 1977. It has a hull type of Long Keel and LOA is 5.64. Its sail area/displacement ratio 19.02. Its auxiliary power tank, manufactured by undefined, runs on undefined.

VICTORIA 18 has retained its value as a result of superior building, a solid reputation, and a devoted owner base. Read on to find out more about VICTORIA 18 and decide if it is a fit for your boating needs.

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Boat specifications, sail boat calculation, rig and sail specs, contributions, who designed the victoria 18.

VICTORIA 18 was designed by G. William McVay.

Who builds VICTORIA 18?

VICTORIA 18 is built by Victoria Yachts Co..

When was VICTORIA 18 first built?

VICTORIA 18 was first built in 1977.

How long is VICTORIA 18?

VICTORIA 18 is 3.91 m in length.

What is mast height on VICTORIA 18?

VICTORIA 18 has a mast height of 6.1 m.

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Basic specs., sailing characteristics.

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?

The capsize screening value for Victoria 18 is 2.05, indicating that this boat would not be accepted to participate in ocean races.

What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?

The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 4.8 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Victoria 18 is about 44 kg/cm, alternatively 246 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 44 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 246 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

Sailing statistics

This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.

What is Motion Comfort Ratio (MCR)?

What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?

What is Displacement Length Ratio?

What is SA/D (Sail Area Displacement ratio)?

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Victoria 18

The victoria 18 is a 18.5ft fractional sloop designed by g. william mcvay and built in fiberglass by victoria yachts co. between 1977 and 1983., 600 units have been built..

The Victoria 18 is a moderate weight sailboat which is a good performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.

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Mcvay Yachts Victoria 18 Sail Data

LOA 18'6" LWL 12'10" Beam 5'6" Draft 2' Displacement 1200 lbs. Ballast 550 lbs.

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1982 Victoria 18 sailboat $2200 OBO

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Dear Friends, It is with great sadness that we put our beloved 1982 Victoria 18 sailboat, “Vicky” aka the “JenJoeJã” for sale. We bought this boat new at the boat show at the mall Memorial Day 1982. In the mid-1990s, we sold her to a neighbor, only to buy her back a few years later. She is in good condition for ~40-year-old sailboat and has been the pride and joy of our family and friends all these years.

The Victoria 18 is a stubby keel sailboat built in Florida by McVay yachts, with beautiful classic lines and a small amount of teak design. Our “Vicky” has a light blue gel coat. She has 500 lbs of lead in her keel, but only draws 24”. She has swept back spreaders and no backstay. These boats are very easy to sail, with a comfortable cockpit for 3-4 adults, and a cabin down below. She comes with the original 4 cushions, boom cover (which needs a little mending at the mast) and tiller cover, all standing and running rigging and lines, 3 sails (main, jib, spinnaker), and trailer. She has a motor mount and we do have an outboard motor for her (4.5 horsepower Mercury with an extension shaft designed for the Victoria 18), though we have not used it in several years, preferring to sail to/from our mooring (this is made very easy with the roller furling jib!) She is very easy to trailer and launch. She has spent most summers moored off our house on Lake Charlevoix in East Jordan, MI, and most winters stored inside, and is currently shrink-wrapped on her trailer at the 4 Seasons Marine in East Jordan.

Some improvements we have made to her over the years:

• New mast from Dwyer mast in 2012
• New main custom cut by Will Paxton at Quantum Sails in 2016
• New jib custom cut by Will Paxton at Quantum Sails in 2018, designed especially to be partially “reefed” on the roller furling
• Installed roller furling on the jib
• All new halyards and sheets with in the past 5 years
• Installed rigging for a spinnaker, and have a custom designed symmetrical spinnaker with pole
• We have added blocks at the mast to run the halyards to the cockpit to make hoisting and dropping sails and furling/unfurling the jib much easier
• We added a Cunningham system and a topping lift for the main/boom
• In 2018 we had the hull, deck, and teak professionally cleaned and polished, though the deck does have a few small wear marks
• We have redone the bottom paint a couple of times
• In 2019 we replaced the cockpit through-hulls and repaired a few small areas on the hull that had water ingress
• We ran electrical for a masthead light, though rarely use it because we generally only sail her during the day.
• The trailer has JUST been refurbished with all new wiring, lights, axel grease, bearings, etc.

This is an excellent day sailor for couples, families, friends. The loads are relatively low for a keel boat, and it’s a great boat for teaching new sailors/kids. Trimmed well, the Victoria 18 will sail quite quick in a light breeze, and with the roller furling, it’s easy to reduce sail area if the wind picks up. And with only a small amount of teak, she’s easy to maintain. The sails alone are worth $1200. We’re asking $2200 (OBO) for the boat, sails, trailer and all associated rigging. You pick it up in East Jordan, or arrange for her delivery.

There are two very active Facebook groups, Victoria Eighteen and Victoria 18, and a lot of information online about this classic sailboat.

Rig and Sails

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The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

Derived from the earlier MINUET. Two versions were built; A sloop and a very limited edition cutter with a bowsprit. The number built listed is only a rough approximation. Just before the factory closed, a VICTORIA 17 was introduced, a shortened version of the 18 with an outboard rudder. It is thought that they exist in very small numbers.

Victoria Yachts was a company founded by the designers son, Bill McVay. The location was: 203 Benson Junction Road DeBarry, Florida 32713 USA

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Victoria 18' ?

• Thread starter RussC
• Start date Jun 13, 2016
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Tweety is looking nice RussC. I have a Victoria Eighteen I have been sailing for the past 4 years. I just decided to tune it a little this week to get it to point a little better into the wind. Before I started tuning, my uppers and lower shroud tensions were very low, I was seeing them slack on the leeward side. I am going to go out today and try the new tuning. I would welcome any suggestions you might have about the issue.  

You can start with this tuning guide from Seldén Mast: http://seldenmast.com/files/1456145028/595-540-E.pdf  

Deac said: Tweety is looking nice RussC. I have a Victoria Eighteen I have been sailing for the past 4 years. I just decided to tune it a little this week to get it to point a little better into the wind. Before I started tuning, my uppers and lower shroud tensions were very low, I was seeing them slack on the leeward side. I am going to go out today and try the new tuning. I would welcome any suggestions you might have about the issue. Click to expand

Thanks for the guide Brian S. It looks to be a pretty comprehensive guide. I had the Victoria (Stargazer) out yesterday to test the new tuning and I was pretty happy with the results, although I think I need to try some other tension configurations to get the rake on the mast the way I want it to reduce the weather helm. With my first configuration attempt I had 140lbs on all the shrouds, measured using a loos tension gauge. I think it really helped the boat point into the wind a lot better, and when I would go too far into the wind and my heel began to decrease it was much easier to regain my heal as the mast wasnt bowing leeward anymore and changing the sail shape when I lost the wind. Im going to give that guide a look and try to come up with a better tuning configuration for Wednesday to try to reduce the weather helm. Ill report back my findings.  

RussC said: We're really loving the little Vic 18 so far. Click to expand

Jackdaw said: You'll love it more if you can move your jib lead 6 inches forward! ;^) Click to expand

In about 10knots of wind, close hauled, you want about 3º of weather helm in the tiller. If you have too much, loosen the uppers a turn, tighten the forestay, and go sail to see how it feels. Keep tweaking until it feels good. You will be moving the center of effort of the sails forwards with respect to the center of resistance of the keel. The idea with the bit of weather helm is to provide more lift with the rudder. However, the Vic has a keel hung rudder. I'm not sure how much the idea of extra lift applies, compared to a high aspect foil that is not attached to the keel. On the other hand, a bit of weather helm is good to get the boat to round up if there's no one minding the tiller. That being said, it's hard to get rid of weather helm if the sails are baggy. When I first tuned my boat, I thought I had the most neutral helm ever. Until it was a bit winder the next time, and I realized I had lee helm. Nope, just rake that mast a bit, shall we?  

Russ- I've been catching up on your posts on your Victoria 18. I have a question on the replacement "Victoria Eighteen" decals you said you acquired. First, did they need to be applied by the graphics shop, as you indicated? Could you not get them and apply them yourself? I ask because our Victoria 18 could use similar replacement decals and am wondering how best to acquire them. By "our" Vic 18, I mean a boat which actually belongs to my sailing club, Twin Cities Sailing Club (tcsailing.org), sailing on Lake Harriet in Minneapolis. We acquired this boat in 2014, but did not get it refitted and launched until summer of 2015. She is lacking the traditional "Victoria Eighteen" on the coamings and I would like to see about getting them and would welcome information you have on that.  

Citysailor said: Russ- I've been catching up on your posts on your Victoria 18. I have a question on the replacement "Victoria Eighteen" decals you said you acquired. First, did they need to be applied by the graphics shop, as you indicated? Could you not get them and apply them yourself? I ask because our Victoria 18 could use similar replacement decals and am wondering how best to acquire them. By "our" Vic 18, I mean a boat which actually belongs to my sailing club, Twin Cities Sailing Club (tcsailing.org), sailing on Lake Harriet in Minneapolis. We acquired this boat in 2014, but did not get it refitted and launched until summer of 2015. She is lacking the traditional "Victoria Eighteen" on the coamings and I would like to see about getting them and would welcome information you have on that. Click to expand

If you are willing to share contact information for that shop, I'd like to see if they can send me vinyl transfers of the "Victoria Eighteen" for our boat. Since the sizing and design work has been done, and if you're satisfied with how it came out, I'm glad to take advantage of it and order from them.  

That would be ok with me. tell them it's the item done for Russ Camp. the owner knows me. The shop is called: Logan Design at 541=474=7127 - If they balk for any reason then I could be the middle man for you.  

Thanks, Russ. I was able to order the decals from Logan and they'll send them to me. Paul  

@Citysailor , Have you been keeping up on the 1 Vic 18 in the Lake of the Woods regatta currently going on up in Canada? If you check the "Victoria eighteen" page on Facebook (it's a public page) the crew has been reporting in every day and are actually doing very well overall alongside the big boys. it's day 6 and is well worth the read. Did you get the decals from Logan ok?  

Jackdaw said: when I was out my V18 friends would try and catch me. Come to think of it, I should have let Nancy (in the sailor cap) succeed! Click to expand

Jackdaw said: I was trying to keep her close! ;^) Nancy is a good friend and a local artist here in town. I go to her exhibitions regularly. Click to expand

Kermit, [clears throat] I believe Jackdaw has other interests on his mind at the moment.  

Hey Russ, I did get the decals delivered by Logan. I haven't gotten them on, but they look like what I was expecting. The Vic 18 is just one of our 17 club boats and I've been spending time with some of the others. Today I enjoyed some of my best sailing of the summer on one of our MC scows in some brisk winds on Lake Harriet. Yes, I have been checking out the Vic 18 Facebook posts on the regatta on Lake of the Woods. Quite an adventure on a small boat.  

new link for Seldon mast tuning and safety http://www.seldenmast.com/files/1456145028/595-540-E.pdf  

Glenn was having a ball with the recent heavier winds. I am a recent Vic 18 newbie so I envied from shore. Bought new 1981 Vic 18 named Flewbayou. Not ready for rowing to moored boat in heavy chop and sailing solo in higher winds.. Wednesday night was great. Previous owner made lots of gizmos that I am trying to figure out. Sadly have to pull her out on Monday  

mhindin said: Sadly have to pull her out on Monday Click to expand

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Victoria 18 Blue, A Vic 18 is a rock solid little boat, but the horizontal surfaces on the deck and in the cockpit are balsa cored. The hole in the cockpit will be an issue if not repaired quickly and it sounds as if the area around the mast step has already been compromised. I love these great sailing boats. Thier full keel design and 650 lbs of ballast makes them great in a blow. Just reef the main and add more headsail. There were quite a few built and a good number still in service. There is a pretty tight users group who can be found at: http://login.prospero.com/dir-login...phiforums.com/victoria18/messages/?msg=1323.1 That is the address for the Victoria and McVay Sailboats forum. I see about 2-3 Vics a month for sale, and the average price for a clean on is around $2200-2500, with the trailer. The question would be, is it worth the time and effort to open up the deck and replace the core, then reglass it. And that would depend on your level of expertise, or whether you are going to have a yard do the work. Either way, it must be done. Good luck, let me know if you buy her. I'll gladly help guide you. I have just finished refitting one for a friend in VA. Fair Winds. LakeEscape On Lake Norman Charlotte, NC  

Blueboater said: I'm new to sailing and I have recently come across a Vic 18 with a trailer for $1000 the only issues are that a branch fell on her when in the yard and put a hole into where the cockpit seat goes into the aft part of the boat. the hole isn't too big and doesn't continue through the hull. Also the area under the mast and the support that goes through the cabin to the fiberglass is very soft and weak, I'm talking about the fiberglass itself, It has a spongy feel for about a 12' radius around it and has lost some fiberglass directly around the support. The good is that other then those two part it seems to be in decent condition, sat for some time, but the sails are in good condition and the rest of the fiberglass seems good. Since this could be my first sail boat purchases what could I be looking for? How does this deal sound to you guys? Just looking for a little advice Thanks, Blue Click to expand...

I had no idea, thanks a lot! I will keep searching for the boat I want  

Blue, Was that the Vic seen on eBay about 2 weeks ago? It was in Kittery, ME. LakeEscape  

They are decent looking little boats: Design: Victoria 18 and from the description, it may be just the cabin roof that needs done. However, if you aren't comfortable with glassing, it may not be worth it.  

TSOJOURNER said: They are decent looking little boats: Design: Victoria 18 and from the description, it may be just the cabin roof that needs done. However, if you aren't comfortable with glassing, it may not be worth it. Click to expand...

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