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Kadey krogen 38 review: tandem centerboard gunkholer.

This shallow draft cutter was designed for the personal use of the most ornery, knitpicking, demanding, hypercritical client I’ve ever had — me. Jim Krogen 

In the early 1970’s, Art Kadey started a yacht brokerage in Coconut Grove, FL. Here, he ran into Jim Krogen, a local yacht designer. They used to hang out with other locals, drink beer and talk about their problems and their dreams. Eventually, Kadey came to Krogen with ideas for a trawler. Kadey dreamed of retiring and cruising the Caribbean on a full displacement trawler. Kadey was serious and gave some crude drawings of what his dream trawler would look like. The drawings intrigued Krogen, and he decided to fine out the lines and add in the missing pieces for what would become the 42 Krogen. There also are wood motorsailer 42 Krogens with 12 hulls produced. In 1976, they joined with a Taiwanese yard to produce these 42′ Krogen trawlers. The design caught on, the company grew, and before they knew it, they were boat builders, Kadey Krogen Yachts. 

But, the Jim Krogen was more of a sailor at heart. While he designed trawlers, his dream boat was a sailboat. Kadey agreed that they should next build Krogen’s dream boat. He went and designed a unusual gunkholer, the 38′ Kadey Krogen. As Bob Perry writes, “James S. Krogen designed this yacht for himself and is presently having it built in Taiwan… you can be sure that all the features of this design have been honed to near perfection over the years.” Production started in 1981. From 1981 to 1992, they would build eighty five of these 38′ sailboats.  

First Impressions The 38 Kadey Krogen is a gunkholer, a centerboard gunkholer. Living and working on Biscayne Bay, FL had shaped Jim Krogen’s idea of the perfect boat. In fact, she has tandem centerboards drawling 3’2″ centerboard up, 6’8″ down. Tadem centerboards is an unusual feature on a boat. As one broker notes, “A real person whose going to buy one just about has to be somebody looking for a Kadey Krogen 38.” It is not a generic production design. They also produced a keel version with 5′ draft. She has the classic clipper bow, pirate stern look with trailboards and above average in beam. It’s quite an unusual mix. 

Construction With the sailboat design, Kadey Krogen started production in 1980. The Taiwanese yard, Chien Hwa Boat Builders, were going fast. Word is their earliest hulls were not as well built, but they were always improving their techniques. Most 38’s came out later with a quality layup. According to company brochures, the layup was closed-cell PVC with heavy hand lay-up using mat and roving. The interior is teak veneer with teak and holly soles. She has encapsulated lead ballast of 7,000 pounds in the tandem centerboard version and iron ballast in the deep keel version. The fuel tanks are stainless steel. The rudder is fiberglass, skeg hung. 

By February 1981, they had built three Krogen 38 sailboats. Then, tragedy stuck. Art Kadey came to the rescue of a couple being robbed in a yacht club parking lot after dinner. One of the thugs pulled out a gun and shot Kadey dead. A friend of Krogen’s emotionally told me, “You know what happened to Art Kadey? He was shot – shot by a bunch of thugs because he was doing the right thing. One time I was talking to Jim and casually mentioned the 38 as a Krogen. Jim corrected me saying, ‘It’s a Kadey-Krogen.’ He was right. That’s why I always make sure to call them Kadey-Krogens.” Quickly, Jim’s son, Kurt, assumed Art’s work in Taiwan building Kadey Krogen yachts. They kept going. What else could they do? 

What To Look For Like most boat builders the quality at the yard improved as they become more experienced. Early build problems are the common leaky teaky issues. And any Taiwanese boats built in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s can have shoddy stainless steel. Look for whether the hull has the 5′ fixed keel or tandem centerboards. She was originally underpowered which is odd for a mainly powerboat manufacturer. The original engine was a small 30HP diesel which thankfully soon was replaced by mostly the ubiquitous Perkins 4-108. While passable you might want a bit more than the Perkins 4-108 to really power through that Bahamas chop.

On Deck and Down Below She has an unusual athwartship berth aft portside. Otherwise the layout is standard with the V-berth forward and head with saloon amidships. Galley is aft starboardside. The joinery below is a symphony of beautiful teak with warm solid teak hatches above. One of the Kadey Krogen’s has a different build, the owner’s personal boat named Pelican. Built in 1987, he modified the design in a couple ways. First, he made her a ketch. Second, he increased the cockpit length by removing the aft berth.

Engine and Underway Originally, the Krogen was underpowered with a 30 HP Pathfinder diesel. They switched to the 4-108 Perkins 50 HP and the Westebeke W46 which still were underpowered a bit. Look for ones with the Perkins which is easy to find parts for or repowered with a Yanmar. With her tandem centerboards and long shoal keel, she must have some sailing faults though I have not heard what. Krogen says, “She’s fun to sail. Quick to respond. Stiff in a stiff wind. Still, she can sneak over about three feet of water. Two people can handle her with no trouble. In fact, with tandem centerboards, she practically sails herself.” Krogen raced his Pelican and loved the design.

Conclusion They continued production of the 38 until 1991. Jim Jr. had joined the company as well and was doing design like his father. Kurt continued to head production. In 1994, Jim Krogen died young at 66 of a heart attack. Now, the maker legacy lay with the sons Kurt and Jim. Kurt became president, and Jim took over design. They continued Kadey’s dreams of trawlers. In the late 1990’s, the sons moved the company to Stuart. In 2007, Kurt sold his shares to two investors. Jim still runs his father’s design studio. As of 2009, of the 85 built 38 Kadey Krogen yachts, many are still treasured for great gunkholers for Florida and the Caribbean. Brokerage prices range around $100,000. Go to SV Elsa’s excellent website for detailed information, for sale listings, and much more.

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* Where is Pelican, Krogen’s personal 38?

Not found Pelican yet, but have a list of the Krogen 38’s we have heard something of here: http://www.yacht-elsa.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=118

Thanks for the great review.

Thanks. Good work on your 38 list and other information. I was just going to check into your guestbook at http://www.yacht-elsa.co.uk . Amazing to see such interest in these yachts on the other side of the pond. – RJ

After Sailing the Bahamas for Many years, I can’t think of a finer boat for shoal water cruising

Since 89′ she has been in our family. Pelican is in Florida.

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KADEY-KROGEN 38 Detailed Review

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If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of KADEY-KROGEN 38. Built by Kadey Krogen Yachts and designed by James Krogen, the boat was first built in 1980. It has a hull type of Keel/Cbrd. and LOA is 11.63. Its sail area/displacement ratio 16.76. Its auxiliary power tank, manufactured by Pathfinder, runs on Diesel.

KADEY-KROGEN 38 has retained its value as a result of superior building, a solid reputation, and a devoted owner base. Read on to find out more about KADEY-KROGEN 38 and decide if it is a fit for your boating needs.

Boat Information

Boat specifications, sail boat calculation, rig and sail specs, auxillary power tank, accomodations, contributions, who designed the kadey-krogen 38.

KADEY-KROGEN 38 was designed by James Krogen.

Who builds KADEY-KROGEN 38?

KADEY-KROGEN 38 is built by Kadey Krogen Yachts.

When was KADEY-KROGEN 38 first built?

KADEY-KROGEN 38 was first built in 1980.

How long is KADEY-KROGEN 38?

KADEY-KROGEN 38 is 9.78 m in length.

What is mast height on KADEY-KROGEN 38?

KADEY-KROGEN 38 has a mast height of 12.65 m.

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After visiting the Cape Dory and Morgan Out Island in the marina at the broker’s office (check them out here:  Boat Review: Morgan Out Island and Cape Dory 33 ), we followed our broker about half an hour away to a small boat yard that housed the next boat of the day, the Krogen 38. We hadn’t ever heard of a Krogen before looking at the broker’s website but were pleasantly surprised to find an extremely nice boat for the listing price of only $53,000. (Someone else must have thought the same due to the fact that the boat is now sold.)

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According to the Kadey-Krogen Yachts page on the boat, the Krogen 38 is one of the only sailboats designed by the architect James Krogen. Krogen usually designed luxury trawlers but he designed this boat for himself as an ideal sailing cruiser for shallow areas like Florida and the Caribbean. It certainly seemed pretty ideal to us. There was tons of storage space everywhere, had very large bedrooms (or berths to sea people), and overall had the most “home-y” feel to us. As an extra bonus, it is cutter rigged which would be nice to have the extra flexibility of more sail options at sea. If we come across another one of these this time next year, there is a good chance we would buy one though with only 85 ever produced the chances are fairly low that we’ll find one. Good luck to whoever bought this boat, she was a beauty!

Being in a working boat yard was a new experience for us and the one that we were in had a huge assortment of boats in every stage of life. There were trawlers and sailboats, a 50′ wooden boat styled like a pirate ship, boats that were beautiful and well-cared for, and a couple that looked like they had been abandoned some time ago. We even saw a 30′ sailboat (with no mast in sight) hailing from Alaska! It looked like it had sailed the whole way, though I’m not sure from which direction. I would love to hear the stories that those boats have to tell.

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The final boat of the day was the Morgan 382. This boat was clearly in the best shape of the four that we had toured and certainly made a good impression. A couple of the features that we liked were the settee design, large quarter berth area for Carter, U-shaped galley, and the general feel of the boat. The only thing that concerned us was the size of the V-berth, which would serve as our master bedroom. It seemed quite small compared to the other boats we had visited, but we would need to do additional tests to see if we could sleep in it comfortably. I might love the boat but if I can’t get a good night’s rest I would not be a happy sailor! Overall though, we really liked the boat and are much more likely to find one of these in our real search due to the wider production range of Morgans.

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Looking for owners or sailors having experience with the Krogen 38. They were built back in the mid to late 80''s.  

Kadey Krogen we owned RUFFIAN for six years. lived in Key West and sailed exyensively in the Bahamas. best boat I ever owned. would still have it if a lightning strike hadn't totaled it. came through 35kt sustained, gusting to 45 with no problem. only change I would make (and was getting ready to do) is a running inner forestay. pulling a jenny around in that cutter rig is a real pain. unique feature: trimming the tandem centerboards, and appropriate sail trim, the wheel could be lashed for an almost perfect self-steering. had some blistering problems, but ground them out, filled them and never had another problem. some leaks/hairline cracks can occur around the scuppers in the foredeck well, but easily repaired. our boat had a marinized diesel rabbit engine, the Pathfinder. totally bulletproof. most reliable diesel I've ever seen. damn, I miss that boat.  

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Jehussey- I seriously doubt he cares much six-and-a-half years later. Please check dates before replying to a post.  

Kadey-Krogen Hello jehussey I know it's probably bad form for the forum, but it's interesting how one old post can regenerate interest where it may not have been intended. You said your Krogen was lost to lightning. And I've seen some "lightning" discussions over the last few days on the forum. After last week, though, when my 82 Kadey-Krogen was anchored out in some of the worst lightning storms I've seen in years (with the tallest boat in a small harbor in Martha's Vineyard), I was wondering how you lost your Krogen to lightning? Did you add any special lightning protection? I would just as soon not do what you did. I love my boat as well and could never replace her. Bob  

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And here it is another 2 years on and the late post id interesting to me, at least. Still out there Bob? I'd like to hear from an owner of this boat.  

How about three years later. The question still stands, the KK38 is holding my interest. I havevread most everything there is on the internet about the boat. I've heard it handles high winds just fine but I would like to hear how it handles the heavy seas. Regards, Jaxx  

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Kadey-Krogen 38

Kadey-Krogen 38 is a 38 ′ 1 ″ / 11.6 m monohull sailboat designed by James Krogen and built by Kadey Krogen Yachts between 1980 and 1991.

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Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

  • SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
  • D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
  • LOA: Length overall in feet
  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

Tandem centerboards. Long keel version draws 5’. Over all length with bowsprit: 44.42’. Also called KROGEN 38.

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Kadey krogen 38

The kadey krogen 38 is a 38.16ft cutter designed by james s. krogen and built in fiberglass by kadey krogen yachts between 1980 and 1991., 85 units have been built..

The Kadey krogen 38 is a heavy sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is reasonably stable / stiff and has an excellent righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a bluewater cruising boat. The fuel capacity is average. There is a good water supply range.

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The boat is typically equipped with a Pathfinder diesel engine at 42.0 hp (31 kW), which gives a max speed about 17.6 knots.

The fuel tank has a capacity of 303 liters (80 US gallons, 66 imperial gallons).

Sailing characteristics

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?

The capsize screening value for Krogen 38 is 3.78, indicating that this boat would not be accepted to participate in ocean races.

What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?

The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 7.6 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Krogen 38 is about 252 kg/cm, alternatively 1416 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 252 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 1416 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

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We Bought A Sailboat!

‘If you guys do this it will be one hell of an adventure. Lots won’t go to plan or be easy but the adversity mixed with the euphoric moments will all come together to make a story worth telling. Possibly even a story worth living for. A yacht is just a tool for a job.’ John, my lovely cousin (and excellent sailor, who has given us invaluable support and advice)

It’s crazy that after all this waiting I can finally write a post to announce that we bought a sailboat! It has been a long (sometimes exciting, sometimes painful) process as you can see in my last post , that has left us with some massive lows and one very big high. After seeing numerous boats that weren’t right for us we have finally found a boat we love, that we hope will take us around the world (or at least to the next marina!).

About The Boat (In Case You’re Interested!)

Our sailboat, a kadey krogen 38

‘Hot Chocolate’ is a Kadey Krogen 38 , an American boat designed by Jim Krogen for his own personal use. There were 85 of them built and we are now the proud owners of number 76. She’s floating at the moment and we’re hoping we can keep her that way! She will take quite a bit of work to get her back up to her former glory, but we knew that our budget wouldn’t stretch to a boat that didn’t come with problems and we’re excited to get to work.

Kadey Krogen yachts have an interesting design. A very shallow full keel, meaning they can go shallower than a lot of sailboats, with tandem centreboards to help directional stability. We have loved speaking to other owners and finding out how passionate everyone is about them. It has also meant we have masses of knowledge and advice at our fingertips.

We had a nerve wracking few weeks waiting for the survey. Luckily we found a brilliant surveyor who we can’t recommend highly enough. If you’re looking for someone professional, knowledgeable and with a great sense of humour then contact Mike at Salient Marine Surveys .

Mike made the day fun and informative. We learnt a lot about the boat and boats in general (and he was sensitive when breaking bad news!) He told us of some biggish problems but also how we could fix them, and which jobs we would be able to complete ourselves to save money.

Sailing boat out of the water

Early in the morning Hot Chocolate was lifted out of the water by a gang of Italian men, shouting at each other angrily, gesticulating ferociously and doing everything they could to make me worried about the fact that I was standing on a 12 ton boat that was being hoisted out of the water.

Once out she was given a good clean so Mike could see what he was dealing with. He assured us that he had all the latest surveying tech before pulling out a hammer and spending several hours tapping rhythmically at the hull. Just when I thought we had wasted several hundred pounds on a wannabe drummer, he explained that he was listening to a change in sound that indicates delamination.

The rigging looked to be in good shape and the sails for Hot Chocolate have just been refurbished. We got to take a trip to the sail repair shop to see them which was fun. They have a MASSIVE warehouse full of sunken industrial sewing machines, and room to lay out our sails on the floor so we could take a good look. It does mean that until we get the sails refitted we’re going no where!

The sail shop that has the sails for the sailboat we have bought

Once back in the water he poked around inside for several hours (luckily narrowly avoiding Adam’s underwear drawer). He pulled apart joinery and ran the engine so hard I thought the boat would break loose from her ropes and plough into the expensive looking yacht opposite us. Luckily the very old engine seems to run fine, though I think Adam is already missing the massive Mercedes engine he had on boaty!

Inside she feels like a home. Which is quite important considering we will be living on her! She has an aft cabin that can be open plan, making the salon feel roomy and meaning Adam has to get up nice and early like me because he wakes up when I clatter around making tea. That’s actually a lie, he just covers his head with a pillow and sleeps through. She also has a separate shower and toilet rather than a wet room.

Inside the sailboat we just bought

She has a broken oven that burns us every time we use it, the cosiest sofa to watch films on, a fridge we can’t get to and a window above the bed to watch the stars.

Decision Time

I hate making decisions. Not even my Mum could make this one for me. After a full day of looking for problems (and obviously finding them!) we were physically and emotionally exhausted.

We had lots of figures to crunch and we were finding it hard to think with our heads and not our hearts. We loved the boat, we liked and trusted the old owner but we were worried about the work that needed doing. My old friend Lynsey (she’s not old, just a friend I’ve known for a long time!) recently imparted these words of wisdom,

‘There is no such thing as a wrong decision. You can only make a leap of faith based on the info you have to hand at the time.’ Thanks Lyns xx

So we leapt.

Hot Chocolate is the first ‘house’ that Adam and I have bought together. It isn’t normal or conventional and it certainly isn’t going to make us any money! But what we lose in financial stability, we gain in endless possibilities, excitement and adventure. We have a new way of life, a new way to see the world and we couldn’t be happier to start this adventure together. ‘A yacht is just a tool for a job’ and hopefully Hot Chocolate is going to be the boat that gives us ‘a story worth living for!’

PS. We’re considering changing the name…post your suggestions below! (Nothing rude please Fi)

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Godspeed to you guys! I really enjoy your videos – even the cat-stuff 🙂 Sailing since the age of four, I have been waiting for the right circumstances to do as you guys did. So watching you, is watching my own dream. “may you always have a hand’s width of water under the keel” (I know you don’t even need that) Keep on trucking, Mike

That’s a brilliant saying…I’ve never heard that one before. So pleased to hear you’re enjoying the videos (and Tiny Cat says thanks for putting up with her too!!) Wow, sailing since you were 4! That’s the way to do it! Bet you could teach us a thing or two, or ten! I really hope you find the right time soon, I think watching us is a good omen as we’ve had many people say the same who are now buying a boat to live on. When you do then I hope we end up sharing a beer in an anchorage. Please do keep us updated! Emily

My wife and I just found a 38 Kadey-Krogen for sale and are excited about going to look at her. Especially after watching your videos. We are planning to cruise the Bahamas and Carribean, maybe further who knows. Thanks for posting the videos and best of luck in your adventures, Jim

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Designed by sailors for sailors, the Kadey Krogen 38 is the ideal island hopper that's well adapt at slipping into protective anchorages yet able to take you blue water sailing.  Her tandem centerboards draw 3'2" while up and over 6 feet when dropped.  She's designed as an excellent upwind performer with solid directional stability.  Rigged as a cutter, it is easily handled by a short crew and very versatile with a balanced helm on all points of sail.

Full Canvas and Isenglass Enclosure (2017) Cutter Rig with Roller Furling Head Sail and Staysil

Hand Layed FRP PVC Foam Sandwich Construction Hull Planned, Re-Glassed and Epoxy Barrier Coat (2014)

16k BTU Reverse Cycle AC/HEAT (2008)

Beautiful Hand Rubbed Teak Interior w/Exquisite Joinery

New Lifelines on Deck (2016)

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1984 Kadey-Krogen 38 Cutter

LOA:  38 feet Beam:  12.67 feet Displacement:  22000 lbs Cruising Speed:  6 knots Max Speed:  7.7 knots Draft:  3 ft 3 inch boards Up / 6 ft 6 in boards down Mast Height:  Reported at 55 feet above waterline

Two (2) 50 Gallon Water Bladders under starboard settees new in 2016 Two (2) 45 Gallon each Fuel Tanks stainless under cockpit (90 total) One (1) Stainless Holding Tank under Vberth

U-shaped Convertible Dinette in Salon Starboard Settee Lots of Storage Throughout Beautiful Teak Interior w/fabulous Joinery Work Cole Stove Fireplace by Ratelco (Seattle, Washington) 16k BTU Marine Air Reverse Cycle AC/HEAT (2008) new pump (2013) Nine (9) Opening Portholes Bronze

Walking down the companionway you'll notice the 6'5" headroom throughout. There's a total of 9 bronze opening ports, 4 opening hatches and Cabin Fans for ventilation.   

Immediately to starboard you have the galley with stainless sink with hot 'n cold pressurized water.  Sea Frost fridge/freezer top loading compartment.  Another separate compartment for storage or use as an ice chest or can be fitted with an additional cold plate refrigeration system.

Immediately opposite to port is the spacious master stateroom w/athwartship queen berth, large hanging locker and a vanity with mirror that converts to a chart table when navigating.  There's plenty of ventilation in the Master with two opening bronze ports with screens and over head deck hatch.

Moving forward, the salon has a settee to starboard with a U-shaped dining area to port with seating for up to eight. Teak Dinette Table condenses or expands as permits.  Beatiful teak cabinetry and bookshelves are built in on both sides of salon.  Blue Interior Cushions in nice condition.  Ventilation in the Salon consists of four bronzed opening ports and two overhead screened hatches.

The head is just to port of the Vberth and includes a seperate stall shower with seat and grated flooring.

The private cabin in the Vberth has it's own vanity and stainless steel sink w/medicine cabinet and plenty of storage.  Ventilation consists of two bronzed opening ports and one overhead hatch w/screens.

JABSCO Manual Head Sit In Shower Hot 'n Cold BRONZE THRU HULLS 'n SEA COCKS (serviced 2016)

12VDC SeaFrost Fridge/Refrigeration in one box Additional box for ice, etc Twin SS sinks Pressurized Hot 'n Cold (110VAC hot water heater 6 gallon) Fresh Water Hand Pump and Saltwater Foot Pump Three (3) Burner Hillerange Propane Stove/Oven w/30 lb Propane Tank in vented locker Safety solenoid switch in galley Lots of Cabinets and Drawers = Excellent Storage!

110VAC and 12VDC Electrical Panel with Breakers 12VDC Battery Switch Two additional Battery Switches in Cockpit Lazarettes for Selecting House/Start Batteries Two (2) 8D AGM House Batteries in 2015 Two (2) Pro Sport/Pro Mariner 20A and 30A Battery Charger in aft engine compartment (2016) INVERTOR not operable but wired for replacement Fluorescent and Incandescent Lights throughout 60A Alternator w/built in Regulator (2016) 120A Spare Alternator by Balmar (needs external regulator) Two (2) Automatic Bilge w/float switches by Rule One (1) Manual electric (no float switch) by Rule One (1) Manual Whale Gusher in Cockpit Plumbed and Wired for Genset (no gen presently)

Head Sail:  120% Genoa Hi-Cut on Furler Cutter:  Staysil on furler Both Sails have New Sacraficial and restitched in places (2016)  Main: Full Battened Main Sail New Sail Cover on Main. Running Rigging: Main Halyard (2016) Chain Plates for Upper Shrouds replaced (2013) New Backstays (2016)

Two (2) 45 lb CQR  One (1) 45 lb Danforth One (2) 25 lb Bruce One (1) Fortress Aluminum Anchor for stern Miscellaneous Chain and Rode Dual Anchor Roller w/seperate compartments

The hull is hand layed up of FRP "PVC Foam" sandwich construction.  in 2014 the outer skin was planed, re-fiberglassed and then epoxy barrier coated.

Sellers Personal Items including Tools, Books, Paintings. Inflatable foldup dinghy not included as there's no current title.

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  4. Looking at the 38' Kadey Krogen Cutter

    Join Date: Aug 2008. Location: guam. Boat: 30ft-Acen. Posts: 168. Looking at the 38' Kadey Krogen Cutter. so whats the goods and bads about the 38' Kadey Krogen Cutter. the one that im looking hase the 3'2" - 6'8" draft looks in good condition looking to liveabord then do some long distance off shore sailing in a fue years. 08-05-2010, 07:57.

  5. KADEY-KROGEN 38: Reviews, Specifications, Built, Engine

    If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of KADEY-KROGEN 38. Built by Kadey Krogen Yachts and designed by James Krogen, the boat was first built in 1980. It has a hull type of Keel/Cbrd. and LOA is 11.63. Its sail area/displacement ratio 16.76 ...

  6. Boat Review: Krogen 38 and Morgan 382

    The final boat of the day was the Morgan 382. This boat was clearly in the best shape of the four that we had toured and certainly made a good impression. A couple of the features that we liked were the settee design, large quarter berth area for Carter, U-shaped galley, and the general feel of the boat. The only thing that concerned us was the ...

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  13. Kadey krogen 38

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  20. 1987 Kadey Krogen 38 sailboat for sale in Florida

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